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PostSubject: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:25 pm

"Okay then, this is what happened. On server lot of people were complaining about this plane guy who found them from every damn spot with the plane and shot them always... I've seen him play before too and he truly had had a strange gameplay so I decided to check him. I was following him on death cam, he shot "few" guys under bushes(could be that he had bushes/treeless mod which I doubt) and he also made lot of interesting dive attacks. He shot 3 guys by flying up high.. then diving from the sky and shooting them between houses from hellen. He also shot a guy 5 times in a row from car which I doubt even the best pilot could do just by skills. I also noticed something strange when I was on the allied airfield. I was waiting for plane. He was over block house and he crashed on a tree. He spawned at our base and started running to the hills, he ran to enemy sniper and shot him. More examples.... he spawned again at the allied base... he flew near water to D6 under the big bridge.. then he went really high and started diving towards the sandbags... there was a enemy there and he shot him. He could not have seen that guy by flying such low near water as he did. I'm 100% sure that he has a map hack so I banned him. Here is his ip: 90.26.61.245

One more thing I noticed... he's flying style strongly resembles SGT.Lee's style who was also catched for hacks. I don't have Lee's IP so I dunno if it's him. - Tomi "


I think I have my word to say on this topic. I really was hurted when i red the article above.

So i want to rectificate some twisted point of view and highlights the possible errors about this case :

1. "Lot of people were complaining about this plane guy" : True, lots of people used to be angry after him for he killed them while spawning other
for beeing afk.

2. "strange gameplay " : Diserve to be explain.


3. "I was following him on death cam" : So Tomi decided to watch JB in order to find clues about the hack he suspected JB to use.
I got to say that i learn to fly with JB and I watched him during hours with the death cam, probably more
than you, but i was watching him to imitate and learn, not to check if he was hacking or not
and i think I did well because I accumulated lot of skill after this.

4. The pseudo-list of evidences :

-"he shot "few" guys under bushes (could be that he had bushes/treeless mod which I doubt)"
I won't say JB was my teacher, but I flew a lot with him (that is to say hundreds of hours) on LPS server and on other severs and we had the
habit to fly very close to the ground playing with the trees ... there are also some bugs (sometimes the plane doesnt explose when it hit
the highest part of the fir trees: it has already happened to all of us)

-The dive attacks : "he also made lot of interesting dive attacks"
Not only dive attacks are not impossible but it is often the best way to kill enemies and "killing 3 enemies in a row from up to down is not
exceptionnal, it is possible even with a goblin with full speed.

-Now the car shots : This technic is awesome and most of the time people don't realize what just happen to them.
Just a word about this : first destroying a moving car with a goblin is not impossible or hard. More than that its possible
to destroy 2 moving cars (I am speaking of my own experience on a gob): it s always awesome but it s just very technic.
Seems easy to say, but words can be heavy.

5. The sigh : "he went really high and started diving towards the sandbags... there was a enemy there and he shot him. He could not have seen that guy by flying such low near water as he did."
Please, be more intelligent than that ; it 's not because he saw the guy that he is going to go kill him immediatly after. I am convinced you are
again mistaken about this fact. Then remember that when you are watching with death cam, you are using the F10 mode, and you don't see
exactly the same with this mode than with a F2nd 9 mode.
Last point, I have always been confronted to people saying i was map hacking, saying it s impossible i saw them. I know how i did to know
their location and kill them (in hellen other in plane). When someone surprise me a lot, I don't say he is a hacker, I just think to the way he
uses to kill me like this.

I won't come on the others fact i have red. The explanations would be too long ...



Really nice mister Inspector Tomy for your sense of dedution. I thought old school players were sure values.
For the next time, please don't take only screenshots but make a video so that we all see what you saw.
And don't be estonished about JB's skill : he is flying for ages.
I tell you an other thing that might estonish you (or not?) : When i personaly shot infantry players with a goblin, I aim their heads and i must have
25% of success and I kill them very fast.

To finished, i got to say that since i began to play to this game, i heard a lot about the hackers. They seems to be a real problem for the game.
Maybe its the case, maybe its not, but what i can only say with certitude is that i just met one hacker in three years of playing. This guy (I won't say his name) dueled me and won 25-4 in ffc with a gun as powerful as the rockets of a gob...


So, I think you are mistaking about JB. For me it is sure at 99% that he is not a hacker. I am 99% sure Tomi is wrong.
Don't forget JB is beginning to be quite an old player and I don't think he is using hack like this for years. For I know him a bit, I don't think it would interest him a lot. Where is the fun with the kind of hack you pretend he uses. You probably know all of you 100 more than him about hacks.


However,
If I am wrong then I'll recognize it and apologize but you should be more careful before saying like this who is a hacker and who is not.
Especially mister digi : always saying others are hacking ( I thanks you for the hundreds of accusations against me)

To all: Don't take my tells as a war declaration. I did not want to create a polemic, I am like all interested in the truth.
I apologize for my bad english. I resay I didnt want to miss respect to anyone, including Tomi.

Peace
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:43 pm

To shed some light to this thread, as Tomi explained it to me:

Note, translation from Finnish:

Tomi: I remember when we were in ventrilo, when we used to be in same clan some years ago, he admitted to me and (i dont remember the name) he uses elite hacks"

So, he used to hack, and when I watch his gameplay in server ON GROUND, not in plane, I can clearly see him coming from behind corners shooting. I could easily check if he hacks or not, 100 % sure way.

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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:41 pm

no wonder
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:39 am

He isn't that good in goblin, I'm sure Iron (or me eventually :p) can beat him in a goblin fight. Idk, I already battled a lot with him, and I'm quite sure he doesn't use hacks.
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:53 pm

i think checking to see if he does "hack" would clear somethings up.

SWD has changed a lot from the old days and today it seems like a lot of players have "Elite hacks". im not saying that everyone has it, but that it seems like many more players have it since its been more available to other players as of late.

i dont know if JB does cheat or not. i've never really tried to find out. ( that i can remember)

but i will say that he is very good when attacking cars and players on the ground. but when in a goblin fght (dogfight) he is very easy to kill... and im not even the best at flying.

kind of ironic that i learned the most about flying on the PWN-U server xDDDDDDD
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:49 pm

I agree with Cat, he's good in gobbing players, but not in gobbing goblins. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:10 pm

I don't know what these hacks do, I never even googled for them, but JB isnt so good in dogfight situations. But he shoots people on the ground with amazing accurancy. I can say I am quite a good pilot and I can shoot people wherever they are, but I can't do so many kills in a row that he can. Also on the ground he kills instantly. It's hard to go 1 vs 1 on him because you won't have time to shoot.

So my opinion, yes, he definetly cheats.
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:43 pm

indeed
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:47 am

If JB used hacks..
the Goblin ACC is the Same it doesnt Spray and what would he use a maphack...
well idk
But i Know JB has real skills just Deal with it...
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:14 am

The question was not " What about your skill? "

I battled with all of you, don't worry I have my idea of yours.

So even if I know that you are the best pilot of bf swd (Kai) or the best sniper of bf 1942 (Dead eyes), it doesnt matter ...

For those who didnt understand who I am, I am WonderBoy.




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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:52 am

so wat do u " Wonder" all day? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:28 pm

no he WONDERS all the day in WONDERLAND.
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:34 pm

I did not say that I am best pilot, I was telling an opinion based on my experiences with goblin. I remember him from 2004 or 2005, and he's been around for ages, so that's not a big deal then. I was just wondering about him shooting people on ground ( f.e. with bren ). That's where he's suspiciously good.
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:48 pm

*yawn* you all know that im the best.... well hardly actually army is.. hahah
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:17 pm

good jk?
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:09 pm

Army is best. Sadly.

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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:42 am

player_7 or 6 (he changes his number when in trouble) has been hacking community server!! he knows where EVERYONE is. he has not been spawning in enemy bases but nobody was in there bases so there was no point. i do not know how to get peoples ip number (please tell me how) for more info on what he was doing find the player jokerofman.
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:01 am

evf. IronSky wrote:
Army is best. Sadly.
Whos Jealous?
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:04 am

What? I admit I am not even near best.

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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:07 am

Me and Ironsky are NOOBS just like all of you.
The difference is that we admit it and your all pussy's lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:20 am

I arnt the Best either can i join you and iron now? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:32 am

im just a ranger Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:35 am

I am best


















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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:39 am

who the fuck is army..

allbody says he´s the best.
ive never seen him play..

and pls dont write over people they stopped playing swd longer than 1year.
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PostSubject: Re: Pushing a : JB the hacker   Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:43 am

He is far better player than any of us. In infantry, that is.

He is dominating Retail 1942 infantry ladder as well.




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